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Backup, backup, backup

Postby Tesral » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:44 pm

Xen. How big is a backup of AST? I'd be willing to hold onto 50-70 gig easy. I could be talked onto more even if we had to snail mail a USB stick or SD card around.

As was pointed out in the Photobucket thread, this is a valuable resource,. I am of the option that there should be off site unconnected backups that you, or a successor, could call on.

I am also of the opinion that I should not be "it". Pass the data around. Sure I'm a reliable guy, but if something happened and my wife did not know of the magic chip? The forum is screwed, but only if I am the only backup.
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Re: Backup, backup, backup

Postby MEATLOAFr » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:02 pm

Tesral wrote:Xen. How big is a backup of AST? I'd be willing to hold onto 50-70 gig easy. I could be talked onto more even if we had to snail mail a USB stick or SD card around.

As was pointed out in the Photobucket thread, this is a valuable resource,. I am of the option that there should be off site unconnected backups that you, or a successor, could call on.

I am also of the opinion that I should not be "it". Pass the data around. Sure I'm a reliable guy, but if something happened and my wife did not know of the magic chip? The forum is screwed, but only if I am the only backup.


I agree, this is a valuable resource, does the host server have any back-up options? On-site (same servers) or (more preferable) an off-site one?

If needed I could hold a chunk of my 2TB external drive as a back-up location, maybe once a month do a site save?
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Re: Backup, backup, backup

Postby kobayashimaru » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:15 am

nice idea.
a very white-hat line of thinking folks.

there are some 'wayback machine' and majestic12 crawlers indexing pointed this way,
stuff like that and 8hrsprior help when folks 'edit away' vids or hyperlinks are broken.
however, those could at some stage pull a photobucket...
though it would be awesome to have more backup procedures -
there's a lot of awesome blueprints and stuff at AST that you can't find anywhere else.

we could craft an AGI 'get-that" trickle feed routine,
some methods are described by Chua, DeGaris, and over at OpenCog or ThisWeekInTech.
Cliff High also has some ideas about that...
using google, palemoon, majestic or other indexer browsers,
we could then slowly "scrape" the data that way.
lock-stock and zip'd per calendar year.
or, it could be a screenshot per page routine for "as visible at time of archiving".

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remember, like 8bitguy says of archiving,
there's 4 whole episodes of Dr Who which are still missing,
due to archival purge/fires at storage location.
they've found 2 extra ones from the lost episodes,
as televised in Africa I think they said, Botswana
the point being, that'd suck if there was a gap in AST timeline.

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Re: Backup, backup, backup

Postby Xen » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:09 am

yes, the host backs up daily. every 5 hours i think.

i have never called upon their services for such as i have always done my own backups.

as mentioned in another post, that is one of the reasons why ast came about. the lack of being able to preserve existing and ongoing data at ten-12 felt made it feel like a wasted effort in the end.

i asked invisionfree to provide db access, or a way to bring that data over here, so that 8 years worth of 2004-2012. no reply, and i'm guessing no interest from their side.

as for ast, this subject requires a ponder with a clear head and some more sleep. contacting a few folks, including some of the members here.

lastly, to all; please pm me instead if you have anything you need an answer to. it is easier for me to read and reply these days than scanning posts.

even if you include links or quotes from posts, it will help me out a lot.

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Re: Backup, backup, backup

Postby feldon30 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:08 pm

InvisionFree used to offer a database download if you paid a certain price based on the size of the data. Do they no longer offer that?

Over the years, I have developed a set of tools which allow me to "scrape" the contents of a Forum and import it into another forum. I have needed to download the contents of several forums and preserve or relocate them. Mostly due to uncooperative "hosted" forums.


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