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AGT Future Enterprise D INCOMPLETE

Post by asmcelhinney » Sat May 17, 2014 7:42 pm

*EDIT: this project has changed somewhat from my first ideas...

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Seeing as everyone else is having a go I thought I'd start posting my ideas for my entry.

I really like the 'lost era' and the Excelsior and Ambassador class ships are two of my favourite designs in all of trek, so whatever I build, it'll be based of off one of them. Regarding scale, if I use an Excelsior/Excelsior refit it'll be 1/1000, if I use the Ambassador as the base I'd probably lean towards 1/2500 over 1/1400. Whichever route I go down, I'll be making extensive use of aftermarket parts from places like Don's Light & MAgis and Modular Models etc, plus the kitbash will be lit to the best of my abilities.

Idea 1: The Excelsador/Ambassior
This would probably take shape as a modified 'sexed up' Excelsior with bells and whistles and hints of design evolution towards the Ambassador.

Idea 2: Excelsior Dreadnought
Because three nacelles are better than two? I always really like the Future Enterprise from All Good Things and rather like the idea of a 'dreadnought' Excelsior. I have found a couple of pics for inspiration, but don't think they look quite right. Reckon I could do a lot better.

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Not sure it I'd festoon the thing with guns. Perhaps some phasers here and there, maybe a crazy mega cannon thing under the saucer.

Idea 3: Ambassador Dreadnought
As above really. Given the Ambassador is closer in profile to the Galaxy class it's somewhat easier to envisage a three nacelled version with bells and whistles, but I think I'd prefer an Excelsior version.

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Idea 4: Apollo Class Science vessel
The Apollo (which I'm pretty sure is non-canon) is the 'Nebula' equivalent of the Ambassador Class. I found some rather nice pictures that have me really interested in this:

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I did, only just last night, come across Resin-Modeller Adam's 'Dante class' ship from last year's comp which is more or less the same idea.Somewhat off-putting, but mine would be 1/2500 and with lights.

Other thoughts
There are loads of canon and non canon remixes of the Excelsior and Ambassador, some laughable, a few endearing, most hideous. But you never know, adding nacelles and pods and weapons in strange places might yield some fantastic results!

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Lots to think about :)
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Re: Lost Era kitbash

Post by Moongrim » Sun May 18, 2014 3:34 pm

Intriguing and enjoyable. ;)
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Re: Lost Era kitbash

Post by Greyryder » Mon May 19, 2014 12:04 am

Is that a shuttlebay at the back of that Apollo class. That's huge! Still, I like that design.

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Re: Lost Era kitbash

Post by el gato » Tue May 20, 2014 4:43 pm

I agree. The Apollo Class is a cool looking ship.
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Re: Lost Era kitbash

Post by asmcelhinney » Tue May 20, 2014 11:50 pm

Does look like a massive shuttle bay. Having some 1/2500 shuttles or runabouts mooching about in there would be cool. Really like this design.

My heart is set on the excelsior dreadnought retrofit weirdness, but the majority of the parts I want are from Modular Models who list a turnaround of 6-8 weeks. Assuming I factor in a couple of weeks on top of that to ship to the UK... well, I might not get the majority of the parts I want until very close to the deadline.

It's a real pain sometimes not having UK supplier of the wealth of kits and parts available across the pond.
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Re: Lost Era kitbash

Post by asmcelhinney » Wed May 21, 2014 3:49 pm

Quick and dirty photoshop mock-up of a possible Excelsior dreadnought...

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We've had a change of plans...

Post by asmcelhinney » Tue May 27, 2014 7:17 pm

I'm going to have to put my love affair with the lost era Excelsior/Ambassador ideas on hold for a few months for mostly financial reasons (the last week of June is hideously expensive having my sister's, youngest brother's, best friend's, step son's and partner's birthdays all in a row!). Thankfully I do have a small stash of un-built kits on standby...
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I have a 1/2500 Enterprise D doing nothing...

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... so I'll be ordering the VA Miniatures 'Future Galaxy Conversion' very soon. It has clear tinted parts so I'll be lighting the nacelles and deflector at least, possibly the windows as well, however I might also get the 'Battlehead' conversion piece and make the model with a removable saucer section which would make putting lights in for the windows through the whole ship something of a challenge.

Here's a few pics of the Diamond select Future Enterprise that features saucer separation:

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Then there's the question of deacls/aztecs/masks. Obviously I have a lot of choice of Galaxy-Class/Ent-D stuff, but will need to modify it for the retrofitted dreadnought hull.

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Re: 'All Good Things' Future Enterprise D

Post by SingleMind » Tue May 27, 2014 10:38 pm

I like it! I have always loved the dreadnought Enteprise ever sence the first time she blasted all those holes in that Neg'varh. Looking forward to see what you do.
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Re: 'All Good Things' Future Enterprise D

Post by Moongrim » Wed May 28, 2014 4:27 pm

SingleMind wrote:I like it! I have always loved the dreadnought Enteprise ever sence the first time she blasted all those holes in that Neg'varh. Looking forward to see what you do.
Me too. None of this "attempting to penetrate shields', malarkey.

Is it just me, or are the secondary hull's impulse engines exhausting directly onto the the third nacelle's pylon?
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Re: 'All Good Things' Future Enterprise D

Post by asmcelhinney » Wed May 28, 2014 4:41 pm

Moongrim wrote:Is it just me, or are the secondary hull's impulse engines exhausting directly onto the the third nacelle's pylon?
Yep, they sure are. Size and location of impulse engines seems to be a rather haphazard afterthought on a fair few classes of ship!
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