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Re: Ship Comparision Charts (Going to get picture Heavy)

Postby DefiantClient » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:46 pm

Tesral wrote:Well the Manta came well before I even knew about SSM. The other ships, lack of motivation. The Manta is a kitbash, but you don't see much of the donor. I do lots of things not just models my attention flutters about.

I only got really serious about the older Ane ships recently. Part of the deal is I need to learn 3D modeling, and I have a hard time reading the controls of the program.


Ah, human memories and how jumbled they get over the years. I wonder where it was that I saw the manta so long ago though... hmmm.

Well, I knew it was a kitbash from the deflector. Though I recognized a lot of the 1/2500 Enterprise-D parts, you hid and transformed them really well. Good luck with the 3D modeling. I hope to see more of the fleet in the future, 3D or physical. :)

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Re: Ship Comparision Charts (Going to get picture Heavy)

Postby Drop_Bear » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:35 pm

I'm not so sure about the others in the fleet, but I love the Manta. Something about it resonates with me.
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Re: Ship Comparision Charts (Going to get picture Heavy)

Postby kobayashimaru » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:22 am

@Tesral,
score!
any excuse to see more Euphrates, it's an awesome looking ship.
The Kobayashimaru would be of that class, if I were to retcon heheh

As to the Dolphin and Amani,
I can see how getting the curve of the top nose area to match the

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shaped middle part, would be annoying...
There's a lot of reference to that ship from ST:Voy (the fake one the former borg tried to disguise, to trap most of Voyager's crew on board), alongside the Prometheus... as that has a really sleek nose shape which blends to a 90degree flat surface.
The nacelles, comparatively, are the easier part: they look like Nebula-class nacelles and the lower engineering section from a Nebula Class, crossed with parts from that ST:Voy ship and a Prometheus Class,
into a cool looking irregularly shaped Federation Vessel. :D

If I were making it, I'd probably do the fillets of 2D 'ribbing', for the different bulkheads,
and then apply vorblas own or a quick-dry liquid plastic over that...
or, try getting the 3D printer onto it hehehe - good thing 1:4848 scale is more cost effective hehe :lol:

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Re: Ship Comparision Charts (Going to get picture Heavy)

Postby Tesral » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:15 am

Drop_Bear wrote:I'm not so sure about the others in the fleet, but I love the Manta. Something about it resonates with me.


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Re: Ship Comparision Charts (Going to get picture Heavy)

Postby Tesral » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:22 am

kobayashimaru wrote:@Tesral,
If I were making it, I'd probably do the fillets of 2D 'ribbing', for the different bulkheads,
and then apply vorblas own or a quick-dry liquid plastic over that...
or, try getting the 3D printer onto it hehehe - good thing 1:4848 scale is more cost effective hehe :lol:


The wings are 0.020 plastic. Glue and pressure got the compound curves.

I cut four identical wings. Freehanded the curves of the wing. I cut four more shorter wing tips. The whole glued to the wing tips and allowed to dry. The wings were attached to the upper hull and again allowed to thoroughly dry. Then the attachment to he lower hull and that beautiful curve came into being.

I had a useless camera and no reason to write a build article at the time.
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Re: Ship Comparision Charts (Going to get picture Heavy)

Postby kobayashimaru » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:19 pm

gotcha, the ol' heat and bend method - that's how the pros do it hehehe
no wonder it would look smoother and less 'panel-y'.
it is an elegant curve-to-"80s curves" transition :D

thanks for the front view of the Manta also -
that is very organic for the 'saucer' part, almost EntD neck section (near the 'cobrahead' part)
its awesome!

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Re: Ship Comparision Charts (Going to get picture Heavy)

Postby Tesral » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:47 pm

kobayashimaru wrote:gotcha, the ol' heat and bend method - that's how the pros do it hehehe
no wonder it would look smoother and less 'panel-y'.
it is an elegant curve-to-"80s curves" transition :D

thanks for the front view of the Manta also -
that is very organic for the 'saucer' part, almost EntD neck section (near the 'cobrahead' part)
its awesome!


Cold formed, no heat. A patient use of cement and pressure.

Well there is an Ent D secondary hull buried in the thing. No secret to that.
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Re: Ship Comparision Charts (Going to get picture Heavy)

Postby Drop_Bear » Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:06 am

I never really really noticed the Enterprise-D secondary hull. I thought the whole thing was built from scratch! Is it intentional that she looks kinda like the Fighting Machines from the 1953 War of the Worlds movie? Or is that just coincidence?
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Re: Ship Comparision Charts (Going to get picture Heavy)

Postby Tesral » Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:54 am

Drop_Bear wrote:I never really really noticed the Enterprise-D secondary hull. I thought the whole thing was built from scratch


Then my task was well done. It provides the bow angle ansd the gluing surface. Very little shows.


Drop_Bear wrote:! Is it intentional that she looks kinda like the Fighting Machines from the 1953 War of the Worlds movie? Or is that just coincidence?


Coincidence, as the name suggests the inspiration was a manta ray.
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Re: Ship Comparision Charts (Going to get picture Heavy)

Postby Tesral » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:46 am

Poong ships. Pre Federation contact

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and post Federation contact.

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