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Paper model maker

Post by Tesral » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:30 am

People have seen my massive bulk carriers. Neat, but massive and I have thought long and very hard on how to make one. Sacred Scale of course

Resin -- Pro: The bulk carriers are lots of similar parts. Con HEAVY, expensive
Metal -- never mind.
Styrene - I would work the rest of my life cutting it out.

Paper: Light, repeatable for those lots of similar parts., I might be on to something here.

The question: Does anyone know of an open source (runs on Linux) program for designing paper models?
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Re: Paper model maker

Post by cozmo » Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:21 am

Tesral wrote: Styrene - I would work the rest of my life cutting it out.
You are going to have to cut the paper, right?

If the ship is the thing I'm thinkin' of, it is mostly containers and a framework.

No problem. In 1/2500 scale, a container is the same diameter as a piece of 1/2" CPVC pipe. Caps for the container aren't hard to come by and the building material you left out was wood. For a one off model that you are considering paper for a medium, balsa and florist foam are the perfect materials for building. Draw your plans and print them with the decals/markings already in place, use some aerosol adhesive to secure the paper to the building material and have some fun.

Yeah, I used to think this sounded crazy, until I tried it. I usually just use it for mockups, but I did a CVN-65 in 1/3900 scale with a paper flight deck. Never went to the next step on that one because the simple one looked so good.

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Re: Paper model maker

Post by Tesral » Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:49 am

Ridged foam...that does have promise. It handles some the rigidity problems as well. It would be less fiddly than trying to build strictly from paper.

Some thinking must be done. Thank you.
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Re: Paper model maker

Post by slawton » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:30 pm

Resurrecting an old thread...

I'm thinking of dipping my toe into new waters...

Paper Models! Not expensive! There are a number of free templates which can be used to create models for which there are no available kits. In some ways, it can be a real shortcut in that the painting and decaling is essentially done for you. I have no experience, so I am seeking advice/suggestions in working with paper models. Tips for sizes ranging from very small to potentially pretty large, different shapes (curves, etc.), others experiences (good & bad), ...
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Re: Paper model maker

Post by kobayashimaru » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:52 pm

uh-oh,
SLawton has discovered Pepakura, Paperkraftieren etc :D
"Mixed Media Pepakura Paperkraft". :borg:
you can 'sandwich' the paper, cardboard, foamcore, APEC-5/7 transparent OHT architectural decal,
to make "Pepakura Lanterns" etc, which can be light-up with those "LED tea-lights"
like Fran of FranLab discusses.

It's all good. The borg are lucky -
most of our geometries already exist as nets to be printed and folded. Tetrahedra, etc.
The Electronic Journal of Combinatorics has over 2.5 million nets, for example.
there are then other locales, papercraft directories etc.
you can then extrapolate to CNC'd or Lazer-etch very quickly from the paper-mock-up. :D

For those compound-curves (like a Ricci-Perelman "undulating 3Sphere" etc)
you need to look into dedicated Origami techniques and rollers etc.
That's when you'll discover Yutaka "Boomerang Prof" Nishiyama etc or, Kai Huang-Yueh's and Yiu WuXhei's origami.
you can fold a dome out of APEC7 packaging "upcycling" recycling,
and that is quicker than the printer for most stuff hehe.

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"Tips"
1 - measure twice, cut once. Use a decent protractor or 'plumb-bob' and pin jig set,
such as a cork-board, for marking out your folds.
2 - "fold of material", it's always a little more, so, allow a 'lee-way' around the edges of ~0.5-1.5mm (this changes between materials and Material-Material junctions, such as "Hopf-Fibration Pepakura", or "Conway-Coxeter-Schlafli" pepakura).
3 - Scotchguarding or using materials that are water-resistant.
You'll need either the wax-satin-finish or to coat your result in something like UltraEverDry (paper-ligininase variant).
otherwise, take a photo of your creation as it will melt in a humid environment.
4 - "Slot-n-Tab"/ "Biscuit Dovetail Joint" - you need to think of tab-placement and how that will impact on the lighting of your lantern.

Weight -you must use trusses or corfluting for structures which exceed the weight above,
so, most projects won't be like a "flying kite", therefore, you can use card etc. but, this is important for back-of-mind.

So, there's 180GSM SemiSatin "Foamcore" Available at your craft store;
that will do most stuff.
you can use Lazer-CNC'd 280 GSM for the 'structural' frame, or MDF at that point if thickness exceeds ~25mm.

I use Microsoft Visio (with Powerpoint pluggin) and Paint for most of my pepakura,
as well as a GIMP-pluggin for Origami.
I then print that out,
adhese that to the material/s, put that on the 3DPrinter (Repetier K8203b with Lazer-cutter CNC attachement...)
and bingo-bango-bongo, that cuts my Pepakura neater than I could!


I hope this helps -
I am not a pro at all,
though another fan of Pepakura/Paperkraftieren etc.
My better-half is an origami queen, she's very good at helping with the pinch-pletes and Flexagonal stuff.
so, don't be afraid to outsource to your local Artists Swap-Cards club/ Scrapbooking Society for projects :D

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Re: Paper model maker

Post by Tesral » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:10 am

slawton wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:30 pm
Resurrecting an old thread...

I'm thinking of dipping my toe into new waters...

Paper Models! Not expensive! There are a number of free templates which can be used to create models for which there are no available kits. In some ways, it can be a real shortcut in that the painting and decaling is essentially done for you. I have no experience, so I am seeking advice/suggestions in working with paper models. Tips for sizes ranging from very small to potentially pretty large, different shapes (curves, etc.), others experiences (good & bad), ...
The main guy doing paper kind of wandered away I think. It is an interesting method.
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Re: Paper model maker

Post by Vahmp » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:21 am

I use papermodel as templates for most of my Scratchbuilds.
Saves a lot of time.

Pepakura is a great program to use for building/unfolding 3D models into papermodels.
There is one thing thou...
If you don't buy Pepakura Designer program, you won't be able to save your work.

With the free program, you have to print what you are working on, or lose the work (unless you leave your computer on all the time till you are done and print it out).

There are 2 programs for downloading... The "Desgner" and the "Viewer".
Here's the link.

https://tamasoft.co.jp/pepakura-en/download/index.html

Enjoy and good luck. :)
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Re: Paper model maker

Post by Vahmp » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:38 am

At the moment...
I'm doing a scratch 1/2500 TOS Romulan BoP, using papermodel and plastic.

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Re: Paper model maker

Post by Gmeister » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:48 am

Looking good. interesting concept :D

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